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F.B. THATCHER




The story of F.B. Thatcher came to my attention in an article I found on the web. One can find the article by doing a Google search for F.B. Thatcher. Below is the excerpt about Gann from the book written by trader and author Larry Williams.

"As a very young man, I followed the work of Edson Gould, who published an advisory service called "Finding and Forecasts," How I wish I had paid more attention to what Edson had to say. While it is true he had many arcane forms of forecasting, he consistently relied on the action of the Federal Reserve Board and what he called the 10-year pattern for stock prices.

Although I did not know it at the time, I'd been handed, figuratively speaking, the keys to the kingdom of stock market forecasting. The irony of the situation is that I spent the next seven years trying to determine how to forecast stock market prices out into the future. I studied the works of W.D. Gann as well as those of R.N. Elliott, several leading astrologers, and so on, which all turned out to be a waste of time. I was fortunate enough to eventually meet Gann's son, who was a broker in New York City and who explained to me that his father was simply a chartist. He asked why, if his dad was as good as everyone said, the son was still "smiling and dialing," calling up customers to  trade." It seemed he was somewhat disturbed by his father's press-agentry, as it had led many people to come to him seeking the holy grail. If there was one, it was never passed on to the son.

At that same time I also met F.B. Thatcher, who had been Gann's promoter and advance man. He assured me in correspondence over the last five years of his life that in fact Gann was just a good promoter, not necessarily a good stock trader. F.B. made his own predictions, and they were not bad, but certainly not great.

He did give me his version of the genesis of the legend of Gann as a great forecaster. It all began, he told me, with an article in the Ticker and Investment Digest that has been reprinted many times since, where it was reported that Gann sold wheat at the high tick, or price, of the day. Thatcher said they simply hired a good press agent to place the story in the magazine for them. The magazine article placement was accomplished over a dinner where there was some pretty serious drinking as well some money sliding under the table, along with payment for a large ad in the magazine.

I did not know any of this at the time I began my search for something to predict the future. Like everyone else, I believed what I had read about all the great predictors. I wish now I had just stayed with the forecasting techniques that Gould devised. His techniques have been not only more accurate than Gann's but also a heck of a lot simpler to follow."

I called Mr. Williams and learned a few more things about Thatcher. Thatcher claimed to have been Gann's press-agent and was working for Gann at the time the 1909 Ticker article was published. He lived in Santa Rosa, CA and had been a subscriber to a market newsletter put out in the late sixties and seventies by Williams. Thatcher passed away around 1973.

Williams never met Thatcher, but corresponded by letters. The gist of the letters concerning Gann is written above. Williams also told me that Thatcher was charged by Gann to attend the seminars he was there to promote!

Thatcher said Gann used a lot of arcane methods to forecast the markets. Some of them make numerology look scientific.

Williams also met Gann's son around the same time he knew Thatcher. He said Gann's son told him his father had sold his business, at the same time, to three different people. He said to Williams, "What does that tell you." John Gann died in 1984.

None of the buyer's of Gann's business ever had any forecasting fame. There was a fellow in St. Louis named Lerner that I talked to once back in the late eighties. He is the owner that had lived in Scarsdale, NY and moved to St. Louis. He put out a yearly forecast similar to Gann's 1920-1924 forecasts in "The Truth of the Stock Tape." It never achieved wide distribution as far as I know. I have a few and they did not measure up to Gann's legendary forecasts by any means.

Ed Lambert was a partner with Gann at some point late in Gann's career. He sold the business to Billy Jones in the late seventies. Jones is deceased, but his wife still runs the business selling the Gann courses.

I believe there was a lawyer on the West coast that also bought Gann's business, but he did not stay with it more than a year.

Almost twenty years after Thatcher's disclosure, we hear in an interview from a trader who studied under Gann, that Gann wouldn't teach his partner Lambert how to trade because he hadn't paid for the course. Sounds similar to Thatcher's story about getting charged for seminars, doesn't it. He said Gann was a hard man. The interview was done by a group from Australia and it is on one of the Australian web sites. Neither of these recollections about Gann is very flattering.

 


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